We have been shopping around pretty hard core for a minivan, and are torn between wanting a new one and being able to afford an old one. Jeff's best friend Nabeel, works for Dodge now though, so he had me come out and look at the Grand Caravan. He let me take it home for the weekend, but I knew it was too much, and besides, I don't like red. After talking to Jeff we came to an agreement we needed to go the used route. It was kinda fun driving sucha nice van though....hmm.